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haze's avatar

Your experience for road trips mostly matches mine (2023 Model Y, HW4) but on local trips in the Midwest I’d estimate I make at least one safety critical disengagement a month (under a thousand miles). The frustrating thing is that it’s difficult to mentally model where it struggles, and there are often behavioral regressions between releases. Maybe this is what it’s like to be a driver's ed instructor, constantly being driven around by a young driver with different strengths and weaknesses

The past month has been particularly bad, where it’s struggled with timidity and hallucinations. Some recent disengagements I remember:

- It started to brake and pull over twice due to flashing (nonemergency) lights on the other side of a stroad

- Yesterday it had a green right turn but braked harshly when an opposing car started initiating their unprotected left, infuriating the car behind us (then it randomly activated and cancelled its turn signal twice trying to decide what freeway lane was correct, and the same car following us really got road rage)

- Today it braked harshly in a roundabout when another car was safely starting to creep in

Those were split between my wife and I driving, and neither of us is able to react quickly enough to cancel the braking, which was unwarranted and confusing. Fortunately no one has been tailgating us during these events and the worst damage FSD has caused us was just curbing a wheel while parking

Overall Teslas and FSD is quite impressive and I love having it, but it’s too easy to get a false sense of security, and it’s plausible to me that it could require *more* driving experience to use FSD safely than it does to just drive the Tesla normally

Nathan Arthur's avatar

Yeah, I won't be considering buying a Tesla until Elon is 100% out of the company.

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